{"id":8517,"date":"2025-04-02T04:50:05","date_gmt":"2025-04-02T04:50:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bangbang.md\/?p=8517"},"modified":"2025-04-02T09:05:11","modified_gmt":"2025-04-02T09:05:11","slug":"cum-sa-convingi-un-homofob-ca-biblia-nu-e-o-scuza-pentru-ura","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bangbang.md\/ru\/2025\/04\/02\/cum-sa-convingi-un-homofob-ca-biblia-nu-e-o-scuza-pentru-ura\/","title":{"rendered":"Cum explici unui homofob c\u0103 Biblia nu e o scuz\u0103 pentru ur\u0103 (\u0219i s\u0103 nu-\u021bi explodeze creierul \u00een proces)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Interviul <a href=\"https:\/\/bangbang.md\/ru\/2024\/09\/23\/mi-ar-fi-prins-bine-sa-fi-avut-educatie-sexuala-la-scoala-provocarile-parintilor-de-copii-trans-in-moldova\/\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">\u201eMi-ar fi prins bine s\u0103 fi avut educa\u021bie sexual\u0103 la \u0219coal\u0103\u201d \u2013 Provoc\u0103rile p\u0103rin\u021bilor de copii trans \u00een Moldova<\/mark><\/a> publicat pe BangBang.md a st\u00e2rnit un val de comentarii homofobe pe facebook. \u00cen el scriu despre experien\u021ba unei mame \u0219i c\u00e2t de complicat este s\u0103 sprijini propriul copil transgen \u00eentr-o societate care \u00ee\u021bi spune c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103-l tratezi sau s\u0103-l ascunzi. Subiectul a st\u00e2rnit reac\u021bii diverse, unii oameni au fost deschi\u0219i s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 mai mult, iar al\u021bii, au v\u0103zut \u00een dreptul altora de a exista o amenin\u021bare personal\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Printre aceste reac\u021bii, s-a remarcat o serie de comentarii de la utilizatoarea facebook Lena Cazacu, care pare s\u0103 fie un reprezentant tipic al taberei \u201ee \u00eempotriva naturii, credin\u021bei \u0219i civiliza\u021biei\u201d, o reprezentant\u0103 a comunit\u0103\u021bii homofobe din social media.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pentru c\u0103 schimbul nostru de replici s-a desf\u0103\u0219urat pe Facebook, iar acolo argumentele se pierd printre comentarii, am decis s\u0103 transpun interac\u021biunea cu ea aici. Pe alocuri am schimbat forma r\u0103spunsurilor pe care ini\u021bial le-am scris \u00een comentarii., dar am p\u0103strat r\u0103spunsurile ei. \u00cen final a ie\u0219it un dialog , un fel de \u201edac\u0103 eram fa\u021b\u0103 \u00een fa\u021b\u0103, ce i-a\u0219 fi spus!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A\u0219adar, urm\u0103re\u0219ti acest dialog \u0219i fa noti\u021be pentru c\u00e2nd te \u00eent\u00e2lne\u0219ti cu un homofb online sau \u00een cercul de cunoscu\u021bi.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lena Cazacu:<\/strong> <em>S\u0103 fii lezbiana, ghei, transvistit( termenul corect e transgen, n.r.) e o alegere s\u0103n\u0103toas\u0103, da? Hai s\u0103 fim serio\u0219i! Dar cum r\u0103m\u00e2ne cu credin\u021ba noastr\u0103? Azi noi suntem mai presus dec\u00e2t Domnul?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vasile Micleu\u0219anu: <\/strong><em>Hai s\u0103 fim serio\u0219i! S\u0103 fii gay, lesbian\u0103, bisexual sau trans nu e o alegere, la fel cum nu e o alegere s\u0103 ai ochii c\u0103prui sau alba\u0219tri. \u0218i dac\u0103 tot vorbim de credin\u021b\u0103, poate \u00eencepem cu \u201es\u0103 nu judeci, ca s\u0103 nu fii judecat\u201d? Sau aplic\u0103m Biblia doar unde ne convine? \u0218i da, nu e o alegere s\u0103n\u0103toas\u0103 s\u0103 fii homofob \u0219i s\u0103 ur\u0103\u0219ti oamenii doar pentru c\u0103 sunt diferi\u021bi de tine.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lena Cazacu:<\/strong> <em>Eu nu am zis c\u0103 \u00eei ur\u0103sc! Doar c\u0103 trebuie lecui\u021bi, educa\u021bi! Hai s\u0103 fim sinceri: acestea sunt anomalii! \u0218i dac\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i dau seama c\u0103 ceva nu e \u00een regul\u0103 la ei, de ce trebuie s\u0103 se afi\u0219eze pe str\u0103zi? F\u0103r\u0103 defil\u0103ri ei nu pot? \u00cenainte se ascundeau, dar acum au ie\u0219it ca p\u0103duchii \u00een frunte!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vasile Micleu\u0219anu: <\/strong><em>Dac\u0103 ai nevoie s\u0103 repe\u021bi\u00a0c\u0103 \u201enu ur\u0103\u0219ti\u201d, s-ar putea s\u0103 nu fie chiar a\u0219a. Zici c\u0103 trebuie \u201elecui\u021bi\u201d, de ce anume? Medicina spune clar de mult c\u0103 nu e boal\u0103. <strong>Totu\u0219i, \u00een cazul homofobiei, exist\u0103 tratament, se nume\u0219te informare.<\/strong> Iar despre parade, \u00ee\u021bi dau o veste \u0219ocant\u0103, cet\u0103\u021benii au dreptul la manifesta\u021bii pa\u0219nice \u0219i mar\u0219uri. Persoanele LGBTQ+ au dreptul s\u0103 existe f\u0103r\u0103 ca s\u0103 se ascund\u0103. Mai ales c\u00e2nd lumea le spune c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 dispar\u0103.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lena Cazacu: <\/strong><em>Voi cu liberalizmul vostru a\u021bi cam \u00eencurcat-o! A\u021bi umplut planeta de Sodoma \u0219i Gomora! \u021ai-a pl\u0103cut acel b\u0103rbat pe tocuri de 20 cm \u0219i \u00een tricou pe strad\u0103? Hai, mai l\u0103sa\u021bi prostiile! Femeia e femeie \u0219i b\u0103rbatul trebuie s\u0103 fie b\u0103rbat, nu ceva ambigu!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vasile Micleu\u0219anu: <\/strong><em>Sodoma \u0219i Gomora? Deci vrei s\u0103 ne \u00eentoarcem la Vechiul Testament, unde femeile erau omor\u00e2te cu pietre dac\u0103 ie\u0219eau din cuv\u00e2ntul b\u0103rbatului? Dar apropo, teologic vorbind, Sodoma \u0219i Gomora nu aveau treab\u0103 cu orientarea sexual\u0103, ci cu lipsa de ospitalitate \u0219i cruzimea fa\u021b\u0103 de str\u0103ini. Nu-\u021bi sun\u0103 cunoscut?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lena Cazacu: <\/strong><em>Dar voi chiar ave\u021bi dreptul la toate prostiile voastre?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vasile Micleu\u0219anu: <\/strong><em>Constitu\u021bia Republicii Moldova (Articolul 16) spune c\u0103 \u201eto\u021bi cet\u0103\u021benii Republicii Moldova sunt egali \u00een fa\u021ba legii \u0219i a autorit\u0103\u021bilor publice, f\u0103r\u0103 nicio deosebire.\u201d Sunte\u021bi \u00eempotriva legii Constitu\u021bionale?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Lena Cazacu: <\/strong><em>E\u0219ti poate ateist? Cum dar r\u0103m\u00e2ne cu Sodoma \u0219i Gomora? Accept\u0103m destr\u0103b\u0103l\u0103rile \u00een societate? Asta se cheam\u0103 educa\u021bie sexual\u0103? Hai, nu m\u0103 face s\u0103 r\u00e2d!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vasile Micleu\u0219anu: <\/strong><em>Religia \u0219i credin\u021bele personale sunt chestiuni intime, dar dac\u0103 vorbim despre Sodoma \u0219i Gomora, hai s\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la context. Povestea biblic\u0103 nu este despre orientarea sexual\u0103, ci despre lipsa de ospitalitate, violen\u021b\u0103 \u0219i corup\u021bie moral\u0103, aspecte condamnate \u00een multe culturi \u0219i religii.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Dac\u0103 vrei s\u0103 discut\u0103m despre \u201edestr\u0103b\u0103lare\u201d, poate ar fi mai util s\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la faptele reale din societate, violen\u021b\u0103 domestic\u0103, abuzuri, corup\u021bie, lucruri care chiar distrug vie\u021bi. Educa\u021bia sexual\u0103, pe de alt\u0103 parte, nu are nimic de-a face cu \u201edestr\u0103b\u0103larea\u201d, ci cu s\u0103n\u0103tatea, consim\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntul \u0219i prevenirea abuzurilor.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\" id=\"h-ce-am-inva\u021bat-azi\"><strong><br><\/strong><strong> Ce am \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat azi?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Homofobia se bazeaz\u0103 pe cli\u0219ee \u0219i false interpret\u0103ri religioase.<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Dac\u0103 ai nevoie s\u0103 repe\u021bi c\u0103 \u201enu ur\u0103\u0219ti\u201d, poate ar trebui s\u0103-\u021bi analizezi pozi\u021bia.<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>C\u00e2nd nu ai argumente, tot ce-\u021bi r\u0103m\u00e2ne este s\u0103 faci atacuri personale.\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interviul \u201eMi-ar fi prins bine s\u0103 fi avut educa\u021bie sexual\u0103 la \u0219coal\u0103\u201d \u2013 Provoc\u0103rile p\u0103rin\u021bilor de copii trans \u00een Moldova&#8230;<\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":8533,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[182,178],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8517","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-asa-nu","category-queer-proud"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v18.9 (Yoast SEO v20.13) - 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