{"id":4578,"date":"2023-04-05T12:47:39","date_gmt":"2023-04-05T12:47:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bangbang.md\/?p=4578"},"modified":"2023-07-13T10:13:01","modified_gmt":"2023-07-13T10:13:01","slug":"__trashed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bangbang.md\/ru\/2023\/04\/05\/__trashed\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201eDup\u0103 Pride, ne-a sunat o femeie de 60 de ani, ca s\u0103 ne mul\u021bumeasc\u0103. Toat\u0103 via\u021ba a crezut c\u0103 era singur\u0103 \u00een Moldova\u201d: Directoarea Centrului GDM despre plecarea din func\u021bie, viitorul organiza\u021biei \u0219i cele mai emo\u021bionante momente din activitatea sa"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Anastasia Danilova a venit la conducerea Centrului Genderdoc-M (GDM) \u00eentr-o perioad\u0103 c\u00e2nd mar\u0219urile Pride p\u0103reau imposibile \u0219i p\u0103r\u0103se\u0219te organiza\u021bia \u00een acest an, c\u00e2nd cuplurile LGBT+ din Moldova lupt\u0103 deja pentru posiblitatea de a-\u0219i \u00eenregistra oficial acas\u0103 parteneriatele. <\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Redac\u021bia BangBang a discutat cu ea despre cum a ajuns \u00een fruntea primei organiza\u021bii din R. Moldova care promoveaz\u0103 \u0219i ap\u0103r\u0103 drepturile persoanelor LGBT+, despre cum s-a dezvoltat organiza\u021bia \u00een ultimii ani, \u021bin\u00e2nd cont de pandemie \u0219i de r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina, precum \u0219i despre motivul plec\u0103rii sale. <\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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–Cum a fost prima dvs. interac\u021biune cu centrul Genderdoc-M? Cum a\u021bi ajuns, mai apoi, s\u0103 conduce\u021bi organiza\u021bia? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Am venit la Genderdoc-M ini\u021bial pentru ajutor, am primit aici consulta\u021bie psihologic\u0103 \u0219i juridic\u0103. Dup\u0103 aceea, am devenit voluntar\u0103 \u00een organiza\u021bie. Mi-a fost foarte interesant. A fost o un vis pentru mine s\u0103 lucrez la aici. Dac\u0103 cineva mi-ar spus atunci c\u0103, dup\u0103 c\u00e2\u021biva ani, nu doar o s\u0103 fiu colaboratoare, ci o s\u0103 ajung directoare a organiza\u021biei, nu a\u0219 fi crezut. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am \u00eenceput cu voluntariatul, apoi am ini\u021biat programe destinate activismului pentru femei, am devenit redactor\u0103 la jurnalul \u201eTema\u201d. Treptat, am \u00eenceput s\u0103 coordonez programe, s\u0103 lucrez cu donatorii, s\u0103 fac rapoarte. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Atunci c\u00e2nd a venit momentul \u00een care pre\u0219edintele organiza\u021biei a decis s\u0103 plece \u00een alt\u0103 \u021bar\u0103, el a fost de p\u0103rerea c\u0103 eu sunt cea mai bun\u0103 canditatur\u0103 la postul pe care \u00eel p\u0103r\u0103sea. Un timp, am fost vice-directoare \u0219i \u00een c\u00e2teva luni, mi-a delegat diverse sarcini, iar ulterior am preluat atribu\u021biile sale. A fost foarte dificil la \u00eenceput. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Nu pot spune c\u0103 mi-am dorit tare aceast\u0103 func\u021bie, ci mai degrab\u0103 am acceptat-o ca pe o datorie pe care trebuia s\u0103 o \u00eendeplinesc. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Mi-a fost \u0219i foarte interesant, am vrut foarte mult s\u0103 v\u0103d f\u0103c\u00e2nd ceva nou dar, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, eram nesigur\u0103 pe mine, aveam unele frici. Ulterior, le-am dep\u0103\u0219it \u0219i am \u00eenceput s\u0103 conduc organiza\u021bia cu toat\u0103 \u00eencrederea. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

–Ce an era c\u00e2nd a\u021bi venit la GDM \u0219i ce atitudini existau atunci \u00een raport cu persoanele LGBT+? Cum s-au schimbat acestea, \u00eentre timp? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Era anul 2005 c\u00e2nd am venit singur\u0103, din proprie ini\u021biativ\u0103, la GDM. Cred c\u0103 atunci tr\u0103iam \u00eentr-o cu totul alt\u0103 lume, \u00een general, inclusiv privitor la atitudinea fa\u021b\u0103 de oamenii LGBT+. Cred c\u0103 multe lucruri care se puteau \u00eent\u00e2mpla atunci, acum sunt foarte pu\u021bin probabile, dar chiar dac\u0103 \u0219i s-ar \u00eent\u00e2mpla, acum noi le-am interpreta ca pe ceva ie\u0219it din comun. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen pofida acestui fapt, din p\u0103cate, situa\u021bia persoanelor LGBT+ din Moldova este \u00eenc\u0103 sumbr\u0103. \u00cen continuare avem \u00eenc\u0103lc\u0103ri ale drepturilor omului, crime motivate de ur\u0103, discursuri motivate de ur\u0103. Dar ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpla atunci… <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, mi se pare c\u0103 era mult mai mult\u0103 fric\u0103 \u00een interiorul comunit\u0103\u021bii. Era greu de imaginat c\u0103 vom putea organiza deschis mar\u0219uri Pride. Se f\u0103ceau \u00eencerc\u0103ri de pe atunci, dar era ceva \u00eenfrico\u0219\u0103tor \u0219i p\u0103rea at\u00e2t de, pur \u0219i simplu, \u00eendep\u0103rtat. Acum, aceasta este o norm\u0103. Acum, dac\u0103 cineva spune c\u0103 mar\u0219urile LGBT \u00een Moldova sunt imposibile, c\u0103 ar trebui interzise \u0219i a\u0219a mai departe, asta va p\u0103rea mai degrab\u0103 lipsit de sens, dec\u00e2t organizarea evenimentului. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Nu mi-a\u0219 fi putut imagina \u00een acel moment c\u0103 oamenii LGBT vor fi deschi\u0219i, vor da interviuri sau participa la emisiuni cu fa\u021ba deschis\u0103, vor vorbi despre experien\u021ba lor, despre via\u021ba lor sau c\u0103 va exista chiar o emisiune TV g\u0103zduit\u0103 de o lesbian\u0103 deschis\u0103. Atunci, toate acestea p\u0103reau de domeniul fantasticului.  <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Poate din cauza faptului c\u0103 au existat amenin\u021b\u0103ri din exterior \u0219i c\u0103 Internetul nu era at\u00e2t de dezvoltat ca acum, mi se pare c\u0103 oamenii la acea vreme aveau o mare nevoie s\u0103 se adune, s\u0103 se vad\u0103. Comunitatea p\u0103rea foarte mic\u0103 – un fel de familie \u00een care toat\u0103 lumea se cuno\u0219tea, toat\u0103 lumea \u0219tia ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 cu toat\u0103 lumea. \u0218i probabil nevoia asta de \u00eent\u00e2lniri e ceva ce a disp\u0103rut cu timpul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen schimb, acum exist\u0103 mult mai multe oportunit\u0103\u021bi de a organiza evenimente deschise, unde po\u021bi invita deschis oameni din comunitate \u0219i alia\u021bi. \u0218i asta, cred, este un progres. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mi se pare c\u0103 progresul este uria\u0219 \u0219i \u00een felul \u00een care se simt oamenii. V\u0103d asta dup\u0103 cum se simt tinerii LGBT+ care vin la noi. Sunt mai degrab\u0103 perplec\u0219i atunci c\u00e2nd nu sunt trata\u021bi ca persoane cu drepturi egale \u0219i este mult mai probabil s\u0103 fie revolta\u021bi c\u00e2nd v\u0103d o atitudine homofob\u0103 sau transfob\u0103, inclusiv \u00een familie. Anterior, pentru mul\u021bi, acesta p\u0103rea a fi un fel de norm\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sigur c\u0103 mai avem situa\u021bii care sunt foarte asem\u0103n\u0103toare cu ceea ce a fost c\u00e2ndva. Nu pot spune c\u0103 totul s-a schimbat radical, dar \u00een cele mai multe cazuri, cred c\u0103 oamenii vor fi surprin\u0219i de \u00eenc\u0103lcarea drepturilor lor dec\u00e2t, a\u0219a cum \u00eenainte, le vor considera o norm\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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–\u00cen ce m\u0103sur\u0103 crede\u021bi c\u0103 a meritat ceea la ce a\u021bi renun\u021bat – un anumit nivel de confort poate, sau poate siguran\u021ba personal\u0103, \u00een aceast\u0103 perioad\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-M\u0103 simt \u00eemplinit\u0103 c\u0103 am putut s\u0103 \u00eembin ambele calit\u0103\u021bi \u0219i s\u0103 lupt pentru egalitate, pentru drepturile omului, pentru dreptate, av\u00e2nd posibilitatea, totodat\u0103, de a lua decizii. Cred c\u0103 acest lucru este foarte important. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu pot spune c\u0103 am fost vreodat\u0103 \u00een pericol de amenin\u021bare fizic\u0103. De regul\u0103, c\u00e2nd e\u0219ti activist sau activist\u0103, c\u00e2nd e\u0219ti o persoan\u0103 vizibil\u0103, a\u0219 spune c\u0103 oamenilor le este \u00eenc\u0103 fric\u0103 s\u0103 comit\u0103 ac\u021biuni agresive deschise \u00eempotriva ta. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Au fost nepl\u0103cute, \u00eens\u0103, tot felul de amenin\u021b\u0103ri \u0219i jigniri primite online, c\u00e2nd oamenii au \u00eencercat s\u0103-mi reduc\u0103 \u00eentreaga personalitate la un singur criteriu. Ai, \u00een asemenea momente, un sentiment de devalorizare: atunci nu e\u0219ti considerat o persoan\u0103, ci redus la un fel de fric\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u0218i eu \u00eenc\u0103 nu \u00een\u021beleg de ce unii v\u0103d persoanele LGBT+ ca pe o amenin\u021bare pentru unele dintre valorile lor, dac\u0103 au \u00eencredere \u00een valorile lor. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

C\u00e2t despre anumite sacrificii\u2026 Probabil, am avut \u00eentotdeauna sentimentul c\u0103 vreau o societate mai dreapt\u0103, vreau o lume mai dreapt\u0103 \u0219i sunt gata s\u0103-mi ofer energia \u0219i timpul pentru asta, s\u0103 fac inclusiv acea parte a muncii care nu neap\u0103rat aduce pl\u0103cere sau este foarte interesant\u0103. Am \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 cineva trebuie s\u0103 fac\u0103 aceast\u0103 parte nepl\u0103cut\u0103. \u0218i am \u00een\u021beles c\u0103, din moment ce o pot face bine, de ce s\u0103 nu o fac eu? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen general, cred c\u0103 pot spune c\u0103 \u00een to\u021bi ace\u0219ti ani am f\u0103cut tot ce depinde de mine, la maximum de capacit\u0103\u021bi \u0219i efort. \u0218i sunt foarte m\u00e2ndr\u0103 de rezultat. Mult\u0103 vreme mi-a fost greu s\u0103 m\u0103 numesc o directoare bun\u0103 de organiza\u021bie. Dar \u00een ultimii ani, cred c\u0103 am ajuns \u00een punctul \u00een care pot spune c\u0103 sunt a\u0219a. Cred c\u0103 m-am descurcat destul de bine, am condus bine organiza\u021bia, oamenii \u0219i liniile de lucru. \u0218i, bine\u00een\u021beles, \u00een acest sens, am fost foarte norocoas\u0103 cu echipa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P\u0103r\u0103sesc absolut calm organiza\u021bia, pentru c\u0103 \u0219tiu c\u0103, \u00een primul r\u00e2nd, acesta nu a fost niciodat\u0103 legat\u0103 de o singur\u0103 persoan\u0103. \u0218i \u00een acela\u0219i timp, \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 echipa pe care o are ast\u0103zi GDM este format\u0103 din oameni foarte profesioni\u0219ti, foarte buni, minuna\u021bi, care vor putea continua munca din plin cu sau f\u0103r\u0103 mine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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–Ultimii trei ani au fost complica\u021bi pentru toat\u0103 R. Moldova. Probabil c\u0103 \u0219i la GDM v-a\u021bi confruntat cu mai multe provoc\u0103ri. Care au fost acestea \u0219i cum le-a\u021bi dep\u0103\u0219it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-De fapt, \u00een ultimii ani, m-am tot g\u00e2ndit c\u0103 a venit timpul s\u0103 plec, dar situa\u021bia a fost complet nepotrivit\u0103 pentru a face acest pas, \u00een contextul respectiv. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, pandemia a atins pe toat\u0103 lumea, evident, \u0219i a lovit \u00een special cele mai vulnerabile grupuri, care includ \u0219i persoane LGBT, respectiv a trebuit s\u0103 ne restructur\u0103m nu numai munca, dar \u0219i s\u0103 oferim asisten\u021b\u0103 umanitar\u0103 acelor persoane care nu au putut continua s\u0103 lucreze \u0219i nu au putut continua s\u0103 se \u00eentre\u021bin\u0103, cum ar fi homosexuali \u00een v\u00e2rst\u0103, care sunt \u00een mare parte persoane singure, f\u0103r\u0103 familii, \u0219i erau pe punctul de a supravie\u021bui la limit\u0103, sau s\u0103 oferim sus\u021binere pentru persoane trans care din motivul imposibilit\u0103\u021bii de a-\u0219i schimba documentele, au fost nevoite s\u0103 munceasc\u0103 ilegal, f\u0103r\u0103 contract de munc\u0103, \u0219i \u00een timpul pandemiei au ajuns, de asemenea, \u00een situa\u021bii foarte complicate.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Apoi a \u00eenceput r\u0103zboiul, iar asta a fost \u0219i continu\u0103 s\u0103 fie un stres enorm pentru noi to\u021bi. Am \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 persoanele LGBT+ care vor fugi din Ucraina de r\u0103zboi sunt traumatizate, iar \u00een plus, aici s-ar putea confrunta cu cu homofobie \u0219i transfobie \u00een ad\u0103posturile comune. Din acest motiv, ne-am dorit s\u0103 cre\u0103m un spa\u021biu sigur \u00een care s\u0103 poat\u0103 s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 ei \u00een\u0219i\u0219i \u0219i am deschis noi unele ad\u0103posturi, iar sarcina mea era, desigur, s\u0103-mi dau seama cum lucr\u0103m cu tot sistemul, cum g\u0103sim bani. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am deschis, a\u0219adar, unul pentru refugia\u021bii ucraineni \u0219i altul pentru persoane LGBT+ din Rusia. Ambele activeaz\u0103 acum la \u00eentreaga capacitate, iar noi continu\u0103m s\u0103 oferim asisten\u021b\u0103 \u0219i sprijin. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

–Care este, de fapt, motivul plec\u0103rii \u0219i ce inten\u021biona\u021bi s\u0103 face\u021bi \u00een continuare? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Am lucrat \u00een organiza\u021bie, \u00een total, timp de 17 ani, dintre care 13 – ca directoare. Cred c\u0103 este o perioad\u0103 foarte lung\u0103. \u0218i, probabil, este corect ca o persoan\u0103 \u0219i o organiza\u021bie s\u0103 avanseze. Vedem cu proprii ochi consecin\u021bele neschimb\u0103rii unei persoane de la putere. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Este corect s\u0103 d\u0103m un nou impuls pentru o mi\u0219care ulterioar\u0103 a organiza\u021biei, pentru cre\u0219tere \u0219i a\u0219a mai departe. \u0218i, desigur, acela\u0219i lucru este necesar pentru mine ca persoan\u0103. Adic\u0103 am nevoie \u0219i eu de mi\u0219care \u0219i dezvoltare. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Plec s\u0103 lucrez pentru o organiza\u021bie interna\u021bional\u0103 numit\u0103 Eurocentral Asian Lesbian Community. Am stat la originile cre\u0103rii acestei organiza\u021bii \u00een 2016. \u00cen tot acest timp am fost \u00een consiliul acestei organiza\u021bii, activ\u00e2nd pe baz\u0103 de voluntariat. Sunt foarte interesat\u0103 de ceea ce face aceast\u0103 entitate \u0219i chiar \u00eemi doream s\u0103 fiu parte din activit\u0103\u021bile ei. Voi munci pe partea de dezvoltare a capacit\u0103\u021bilor poten\u021bialului intern al organiza\u021biilor membre, adic\u0103 voi lucra cu organiza\u021bii de lesbiene \u0219i de femei \u0219i grupuri de ini\u021biativ\u0103 din Europa \u0219i Asia Central\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Totodat\u0103, voi r\u0103m\u00e2ne \u00een continuare aproape de GDM. Nu plec nic\u0103ieri din Moldova, ceea ce era \u0219i este foarte important pentru mine. M\u0103 bucur foarte mult c\u0103 datorit\u0103 muncii mele la GDM am cunoscut at\u00e2t de mul\u021bi oameni minuna\u021bi \u0219i asta e ceva care nu-mi poate fi vreodat\u0103, dar e timpul s\u0103 merg mai departe. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

–Privind \u00een retrospectiv\u0103, care au fost cele mai emo\u021bionante momente pentru dvs. din momentul c\u00e2nd a\u021bi p\u0103\u0219it pragul GDM? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Pentru mine, probabil unul dintre cele mai emo\u021bionante momente a fost c\u00e2nd dup\u0103 unul dintre primele mar\u0219uri Pride, ne-a sunat la oficiu o femeie de 60 de ani, ca s\u0103 ne mul\u021bumeasc\u0103 pentru tot ce facem. Ne-a povestit c\u0103 a tr\u0103it toat\u0103 via\u021ba singur\u0103 \u0219i s-a g\u00e2ndit c\u0103 este singura asemenea persoan\u0103 din Moldova. \u0218i \u00een acel moment, mi s-a pus un nod \u00een g\u00e2t. \u0218i apoi m-am g\u00e2ndit c\u0103, chiar dac\u0103 exist\u0103 m\u0103car o persoan\u0103 pe care am ajutat-o, care a v\u0103zut asta \u0219i a \u00een\u021beles, \u0219i care ne este recunosc\u0103toare c\u0103 ie\u0219im, vom face asta \u00een continuare, \u00een ciuda tuturor temerilor \u0219i riscurilor. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Un alt moment emo\u021bionant pentru mine a fost c\u00e2nd am aflat c\u0103 un adolescent dintr-un sat de la noi s-a apropiat de un voluntar de la Peace Corps care se afla \u00eenc\u0103 \u00een Moldova atunci, dup\u0103 ce l-a v\u0103zut \u0219i pe el la mar\u0219ul nostru, \u0219i i-a spus: \u201e\u0218tii, sunt gay, nu pot vorbi cu nimeni despre asta, e\u0219ti singura persoan\u0103 c\u0103reia \u00eei pot spune despre acest fapt, \u0219tiind c\u0103 m\u0103 po\u021bi \u00een\u021belege\u201d. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am avut alt un moment emo\u021bionant c\u00e2nd p\u0103rin\u021bii unuia dintre membrii comunit\u0103\u021bii au venit s\u0103 ne viziteze. \u0218i au spus: \u201e\u00een\u021belegem c\u0103 fiul nostru este parte a comunit\u0103\u021bii LGBT+, dar nu ne-a vorbit niciodat\u0103 despre asta. Spune\u021bi-ne ce putem face ca s\u0103 nu \u00eei fie ru\u0219ine s\u0103 comunice cu noi, cum putem s\u0103-l sus\u021binem ca p\u0103rin\u021bi\u201d. <\/em>\u0218i pentru mine, a fost, de asemenea, at\u00e2t de valoros \u0219i important, pentru c\u0103 de foarte multe ori auzim pove\u0219ti negative, despre neacceptare \u00een familii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sau c\u00e2nd cineva ne scrie pe pagin\u0103, c\u0103 a fost un homofob, dar poate a urm\u0103rit unul dintre interviuri sau a citit ceva dintre articolele cu unul dintre noi \u0219i \u0219i-a dat seama c\u0103 s-a \u00een\u0219elat foarte tare, ne cere scuze. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Acest momente sunt foarte emo\u021bionante pentru mine. \u0218i acestea sunt pove\u0219tile unor anumi\u021bi oameni ale c\u0103ror vie\u021bi le-am schimbat. Ca organiza\u021bie pentru drepturile omului, pre\u021buim via\u021ba fiec\u0103rei persoane.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i c\u00e2nd citesc, v\u0103d sau \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 am ajutat pe cineva, c\u0103 ceva \u00een via\u021ba cuiva s-a schimbat \u00een bine, nu am cum s\u0103 nu m\u0103 bucur. Acesta este motivul pentru care organiza\u021bia exist\u0103. \u0218i pentru asta, organiza\u021bia trebuie s\u0103 existe \u00een continuare.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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